A "Cawd" Awful Sermon by Billy Johnson
This week, I visited the First Pentecostal Church of
Denham Springs. Again. The pastor of this church and I have a little bit of a rapport,
and I've never met anyone who reminded me so much of Estus Pirkle. But this
Sunday his son, Billy, was preaching. And it was by far one of the strangest sermons I
have ever heard. In fact, I can't say I even understood it, and I doubt anyone
else there understood it either. Also, the speaker had the habit of saying
"Cawd" instead of "God." And after having seen this episode
of To Catch a Predator:
I had trouble keeping a straight face. It doesn't help
that I've also consumed dozens of memes about the "church of Cawd"...
My apologies to anybody who may have been offended by the
raspberry noises coming from my direction.
I have written a transcript of the sermon below. My comments, as always, will be in pink. I was a few moments late for church, so I missed the reading of the pillar verse, (Job 26:7), and the first few opening comments. Sorry for the fragmentation.
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...predetermines our response and interpretation of the
situation that surrounds us. This service, you might have spent a lifetime
here, or this may be your first time walking through that door. But you come
with a prefixed idea. A lot of times those things will harm us and distract us,
and keep us from everything that God has for our lives. Job chapter 26 is kind
of a different passage, especially verse 7. And, it is the end of an argument
between two friends. In chapter 25, Bildad who is a friend of Job, basically
ends his argument by saying God is great, praise him God is great, and he does
what God does. In other words, whatever God does is what he does, and he kind
of backs away from the table, so to speak. He backs away from that. But Job
comes back with chapter 26, and he gives 14 verses. Not only does he go beyond
the 6 verses that Bildad tries to use, but he goes 6 more verses on. But
there's one verse in the middle, there's a 14th verse: and he simply says that I’m
in the middle of this thing, from the very beginning I've been a part of this
thing, I know what is going on in my life, I'm the one with the struggle, and
therefore he seeks and praises God for the first 6 verses, but the 7th verse he
said, "And God stretches the North over the empty place, and hangeth the
earth upon nothing."
Ok. Let's be sure we're on track here. So far, we have
Job praising God 6 more verses than his friend, Bildad, and this praise takes
up the first 6 verses. This is correct. Then, he says, that in the 14th verse,
Job says that he is "a part of this thing, in the middle of this thing, struggling,
etc. Here is verse 14 of Job 26:
"Lo, these are parts of his ways, but how little a portion is heard of him? But the thunder of his power who can understand?"
Clearly a verse that sums up his
sentiments about the power and majesty of God, not one where Job is saying he's a part of
anything, much less complaining about anything. I mean, it's obvious to me that
you had a preexisting wish to preach about God being in control through the
struggle. But this is the strangest passage to choose to back up that thesis.
The two ideas just don't connect. And the attempt to connect them is very
lazily and sloppily done.
You see, Job realized that God is stretching me, and that
God does not get hung up. And if God can stretch me then I must be stretched,
and God cannot get hung up, and I cannot get hung up. I can't find myself locked
into a mindset where I cannot allow God to work in my life. And I cannot allow
God to do something powerful in my life. So therefore, I'm going to praise God,
I’m going to testify through my struggle, and say that God stretches the north
over the empty place, he stretches is, and he gets hung up on nothing.
And there it is. That's his thesis. Let me post the preceding
and following verses, so you can get the context for verse 7:
Hell is naked before Him, and destruction hath no covering.
He stretches out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. He bindeth up the waters in his thick clouds, and the cloud is not rent under them.
This verse is clearly Job pondering and acknowledging the
power and majesty of God, as evidenced by his creation. How hell is naked
before him, how the Earth is suspended in the air, and how the clouds
are able to hold water. This verse is not stipulating that either God, or
mankind, gets 'hung up' over anything. If you're searching for examples in the Old
Testament of God or man overcoming obstacles, might I suggest the story of
Gideon, who triumphed over his enemies despite his army being severely
outnumbered? Or Elijah and the Widow, who thanks to God survived a famine while
everyone around them starved? Or the children of Israel in the Wilderness
who--wait, no, they got pretty hung up there. All I'm saying is there are a lot
better examples in the Old Testament of the point you are trying to make.
Job realizes that "I cannot speak foolish." He
proclaims that in chapter 2, when his wife says, "Job just curse God and
die", he says no, you speak foolishly. I'm not going to do that. I'm going
to go beyond, and seek the things of God, with faith and with power in my life.
I wish this morning that something would grip us, and we would realize that
God's in this place, and he’s rich with mercy and with grace. He's rich with
all the riches of heaven. With all the glories of heaven. And somehow if I
could just tap into that thing, if I could just squeeze my way past the world
that I live in, and tap into the world of God, and the economy of God, I wonder
what would happen in this room this morning.
Ah yes. Just tap into the 'economy of God.' This is
classic preacher clickbait. He makes it seem like, God just has all this money
and riches, and you can have them too if you just tap into it. With no explanation
of how to do this, of course. Just have faith, I suppose.
And, see what I mean, when I say that Job is the wrong story for the point you are trying to make? All Job said in response to his wife, was "I will not curse God." He said nothing about how rich God is and how to "tap into his economy." For one thing, Job was rich. He lost everything, true, but I think riches would be the last thing on his mind. The first thing should have been the ten sons and daughters that he lost in a freak accident. (I've always thought of Job as rather a narcissist, because nowhere in the story does he express grief over the loss of his children, nor does he attempt to console his understandably distraught wife. Of course, God is the ultimate narcissist in this story, as he clearly couldn't give less of a shit about the rest of the people who were harmed or killed to prove his little point there.)
You see we live, we're going through struggles. Everybody
in this room is going through struggles. It doesn't matter how you look, how
you might have dressed yourself up. We live in a real world, that's full of
struggles. I'll say from the pulpit that I have struggles. I have fights. I
have things that I have to press through in the spirit. But somehow, we live in
this protected world. We live in a time of helmets.
Ok millennials, I think we all know where this is
going...
We live in a world with the protection of helmets and walls, and we try to remove everything that will harm us. And what we're doing
is creating people who cannot face things. We got a few high school and,
college and career age. I'm not trying to pick on anybody, but I see something
of that generation, where they can't face things and they live in this world
that has been protected, and that is not the real world. And there it is. And,
we find ourselves in this world that we feel is full of protection, and then
when it goes wrong, we start speaking foolishly. I want to recall the words of Job
which say, 'I cannot speak foolish.' In fact, I cannot get hung up on certain
things. I've got to realize that God is going to stretch things out. And when
God is stretching things out, he's stretching me also, and God might put me in
a place or a situation, where I must be stretched. But I must look up to heaven,
and say God you’re in control, you know what you're doing, I'm going to allow
you to stretch me God, I'm going to allow you to stretch me over the empty
spot, and I realize God that you're not going to get hung up, and I'm not going
to get hung up. Look at someone this morning, and say "let God stretch
you. Don't get hung up on what God is trying to do in your life."
It's not that I don't understand the point you are trying
to make. I have heard this message preached before, much more competently. By a
preacher who had respect for his profession, and for the intelligence of his
listeners. In that sermon, he used the much more apt passage in Jeremiah, where
God is described as the potter.
Verse 4 of this passage is careful to point out, that "the
clay was marred in the hands of the potter, so he made it into another vessel,
as seemed good to the potter to make it."
We, as the clay, are often marred, or messed up, in the
hands of the Potter. But he, being flexible, salvages us, and molds us into
another vessel. As the clay, we may find this experience painful and confusing,
but the end result is a beautiful vessel.
This sermon, at this point, is just an unmitigated mess.
You continually abandon your point in the interest of going off on tangents, like about how much you disdain millennials.
I would like to point out once more, that Job was
praising the power of God, which placed the earth into space, hanging on
nothing. This 'nothing,' refers to space. And yes, as a devout stone age
peasant, this concept is quite impressive to Job. The concept of micro gravity,
which actually holds the earth in place, was not understood until centuries
later.
I recommended writing your sermons down,
and reading them back to yourself to see if they make sense. Perhaps this critique will
help.
We must understand that God wants to do a work in our
life. He is in the saving business. These miracles, he said I do for you, but
I'm in the saving business. I come to seek and to save that which is lost. We
must realize, he's seeking to save you. We haven't made it yet. We have salvation
working inside of us, so therefore God is going to make sure that salvation is
working in you, because he's in the saving business. And I've got to realize,
that God wants to do a work in my life, so let him stretch me. Let me see that
he's not going to get distracted. He's not going to get hung up. He's not going
to have a mindset to get me off track. But his focus is me, and his focus is
you this morning, and he wants to do something special inside of your being. He
wants something to happen in your mind, in your spirit, in your body. Stretch
us today oh God. Stretch the church today oh God. Don't let us get hung up oh
God, for you get hung up on nothing, you hang the world upon nothing.
In the beginning, we see the world without form and void.
And God moved on no form. And God moved upon emptiness. And things began to
happen, through the creative power of God. What had no form took on form, and
what was empty became filled. Everything in this world takes on form. From the
beginning, when God took his creative word and it went forth, from that moment,
form became, and this world has no choice but to take on form. This world was
filled. This world was being filled with something. It must have form, and it
must be filled with something. I like to say that, because we live in a world
that's trying to erode and destroy God, every moment of this earth. They try to
destroy everything of God, and somehow, if they can put in my mind that God is
some form of imagination, and that he does not exist, then they take away from
me, the form, and being filled. And my form would take on the form of this
world, and I would be filled with the things of this world. But I'm here to
testify, that God forms things, and God fills things. God simply changes
things. And if he must stretch you, then he's in the process of forming you.
And he's not going to get hung up, and you will be prosperous.
Oh boy. Where do I start with this one? Let's start with
your second pillar verse. In the beginning, God filled space, which was empty,
or void, with the earth. Because, according to you, space must be filled with
something. Okay. Then you compare this to your own life, which you say must
also be filled by God, with something. And, as you go on to say, CAWD
FORBID your life be filled with 'the things of this world.' Because the world
is trying to erode and destroy the things of God. Right.
The things of this world are negatively contrasted
to the things of God, without an example of what these things mean. You
shouldn't assume that everyone in your audience knows what you mean, even when
you make broad, overreaching statements. You should still clarify what you're
trying to say, especially if it's a main point. What are the things of God?
Prayer, presumably would be one. Alright, so how should we pray? How can we
find things to say on a daily basis, without it becoming chanting, or looking
like a crazy person talking to themselves? How much prayer is enough? On the other hand, what are the things of this
world? Well, that's pretty much everything except prayer, isn't it. Or is it? I
don't know, you don't tell me.
Also, this is another verse that is very inappropriate
for the point you are trying to make. Seriously, it's like you wanted to make a
point about being filled, so you just looked up filled in the
concordance and just picked the first verse you saw.
I'm not going to let my emotions get me down, I'm not
going to feel like I'm having a heart attack, But I'm going to look up toward heaven,
and say God you're stretching me, you're doing a work. I'm not going to be
filled by the pressures of this world, or the spirit of this world, but I'm
going to look up toward heaven, like Job, and say God stretches the North over
the empty place, and hangs up the earth upon nothing. I feel the Holy Ghost in
this room. I'm speaking in the Holy Ghost to someone. It's time for somebody to
realize, that God is doing a work in your life. Don’t get hung up, because he
hangs the earth upon nothing!
What is God, trying to shape in you? You say, I've been
having hang ups, but you've got to realize, it's not just your job putting
pressure on you. Maybe there's family problems but, maybe God's trying to
stretch you. To get you to pray for your children, or your marriage. You say,
"the job's weighing heavy on me," well, maybe God's trying to stir
you up. Trying to tell you you're investing your energy in the wrong place. And
when you get formed by something that says, you’ve got to have this, and this
kind of bank account, and this kind of car, filling you with nonsense. But
God's trying to form you this morning. Maybe you couldn't sleep at 2 am this morning,
maybe that's God trying to talk to you, to get you to pray a little bit, and
forget about getting ahead. Because the world's trying to form you some way,
but I'm going to stand here in your presence o God, I'm going to win some
things back, because you're trying to stretch me.
This is point slightly from the original
point. In this passage, you're saying that God is deliberately using the trials and
pressures of this world, to bring you to your knees, to make you a stronger
person spiritually. The only way I can glean this from this mess of a passage,
is because again, I've heard it preached before, only more competently. Again, by
someone who had respect for the intelligence of his audience. In that sermon,
the verse used was Matthew 21:44, which says, "And whosoever shall fall on
this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him
to powder." In other words, it's better to crush yourself on the rock, and
submit to God, then to have him crush you to pieces with the rock, to bring you
to submission. Admittedly not a very kind god either way, but what do you expect
from someone who wakes you up at 2am to talk.
There is an empty spot. There is a void that will be
filled. But you must remember that God fills, and he hangeth up on nothing.
Job, some feel that Job was immune, because of the time that he lived in, or
the vocation that he lived in. Some feel that Job had no relationship, or we
cannot relate to Job in any way. Once again those are lies that the world has
placed upon us. Making us feel like, we are the fakers. We have the knowledge,
we have the know. And that Job's world had no clue of the world that it was
living in. But I'm here to set the record straight that, 700 years before Jesus
was born, Isaiah said that, "it is ye God, that sits upon the circle of
the earth." That doesn't sound like a flat earth mentality to me. He knew
that the earth was round. He knew that is was a circle. They understood that.
They knew about the world they lived in.
Isaiah 9:9 says, "which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and
Pleiades, and the chambers of the south." Those are celestial bodies. They
represent every part of the earth of the sky. Orion represents the seasonal
change that you can see in every part of the earth. In the North, you can see
it in the winter time. In the South, you can see it in the summer time. Pleiades
is one that you can see no matter where you live, or what continent you live
on, you can see it. That lets me know that Job was aware of his world that he
lived in.
And here we are. With that smug, creationist logic and
science that the Apostolic church loves to promote. First, I'd like to point out, saying
that Job knew that the earth was round, because Isaiah said circle, doesn't
mean anything. First, Isaiah was born hundreds of years after Job was dead. Isaiah operated in c. 791–739 BC. Job was probably
born some time before Moses, during the patriarchal period, c. 2091 B.C. to 1876 B.C. So, not a great job with your research over there.
Also, you know circles can be flat, right?
Secondly, you also have to realize that the Hebrews were
not the fount of knowledge of science or technology at any point during their
history. Hebrews were nomads during the time of Job. It is likely that all their
knowledge of astrology was gleaned from the far more prosperous and educated societies around them, such as Egypt and Mesopotamia.
He wasn't locked in some ancient time or by mental
capacity. He wasn't locked in some place that you could not feel, or know about
to day. But he spoke about filling the heavens, and I see these things. he
says, no matter where you are, God can speak to you. I'm talking to you this
morning and I want you to realize, we know what's happening around the world.
You watch or listen to the news, you know what's going on. I want you to look
in the spirit today, and I want you to see what's happening in your world this
morning. On this Sunday morning, here in this building, what all is taking
place in your world. God has it all under control, I can tell you that. He
holds the world in his hands. And like Job, I can look up, and it doesn't
matter where you are, there is a constellation, there's something you can look
up at, and claim the glory of God. Look up through your struggle, and what's
going on around you. Look up through your world, and say God stretches the
North over the empty place, and he hangeth the world upon nothing. If he can do
that for Job, he can do that for me. I want to be stretched with the Holy
Ghost. I want to be stretched with the presence of God. I will not get hung up.
You probably should have started your sermon with this.
Because you almost had a coherent, worthwhile point suitable to the
story of Job right here:
"And like
Job, I can look up, and it doesn't matter where you are, there is a
constellation, there's something you can look up at, and claim the glory of
God."
This is a good point. I can understand
feeling overwhelmed by what is going on around you, and being comforted by the
notion of being protected by an all-powerful God. Whether it is better to come
to terms with the certainty of death, and the injustices of life, instead of relying on the fleeting and false comfort of the support an invisible and
uncontactable Deity, is another question. Remember how you said that millennials
were overprotected from reality, and unable to face real world issues? Yeah.
Relying on theism for protection and comfort is kind of like that.
So, you almost had something there. As for the rest of
the passage, it's useless and doesn't make any sense.
In this northern hemisphere that we live in, there's more
land mass, there's more humanity, there's more stars, there's more day. You see
the earth is those things that we just have to deal with. People fail those
that can affect you, and determine how you are filled. Stars have always
directed men, and somehow stars are there somehow trying to direct your path,
and lead you, and guide you. Day is that of time that can get you off track.
The magnetic pull is those things that tug upon you. That is the world that Job
stood in, and that is the world that I stand in today. In this place where's
there more earth, things that I have to deal with every day. The things of this
world, the things of the god of this world, that I have to deal with. That I
have to come in contact with. More people that I have to bump shoulders with.
That effect my view of the things of God. there's more things out there than
stars, that are trying to lead me away from the things of God. There's more day
that's pulling at me, trying to get me off track. There's the magnetic pull, my
life here and there. And these things are happening to us. But I must proclaim
and testify with Job, it is God that stretches the North over the empty place,
and hangeth the world upon nothing. Look at somebody and say, "you're in
the presence of God."
Did I miss something? It's like you're trying to merge a severely underdeveloped new sermon with this one. How do you expect your
congregation to be able to follow this?
I can't get hung up. I can't let something rob me of what
God is wanting to do in my life. John 9:1-2 says,
"And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?"
A question, with two alternatives. Two alternatives that
try to put in focus the calamities upon this individual. Questions, hang ups,
things trying to form their opinion. If you don’t believe that we live in a
world of questions, just go into your local coffee shop. And let them ask the
person in front of you, "what do they want." It will blow your mind.
Questions that somehow form even a coffee. I read an article a while back, that
says we are becoming paralyzed by questions, and too many choices are making us
unhappy. Too many choices are exhausting us. And I’m watching people battle
with choices. I’m watching young people battle with the choice, "what
direction should I go?" I asked a question of my professor, or I asked a
question of my friends, and I asked a question on social media. And I find
myself exhausted with the question. I come in with choice overload, and I
cannot make important decisions in my life. The same carries over to your
spirituality. We become paralyzed. Should I reach out? Should I praise God for
a few moments? Let me look around, let me see what someone else is doing this
morning." It's making me unhappy. I can't make important decisions in my
life. It's exhausting me. But I'm here to tell you this morning, that God wants
to stretch you. He doesn't want you to get hung up.
Hmm. The question in John chapter 9 is indeed a logical
fallacy, called a false dilemma. Congratulations on spotting that. Points
removed for not explaining the false dilemma, though.
As for the rest of your point, sure. Too many options and
choices can indeed lead to stress. But you never elaborate on the solution to
this problem. Are you saying that questions are all just distractions, or
"hang ups," as you say? Surely not. If you're going to bring up and elaborate on such a big
problem, a problem that you see around you every day, how about some stress
management tips for your audience, instead of vague platitudes?
Who sinned, who messed up? We're trying to fit all this
in, we're trying to put all the pieces together, and plug everything in. I have
to have all the information in front of me, I have to actually know what's
going on. Folks that will paralyze you. It will get out all trapped up. It will
become a hang up. When God wants you to just step out in faith, and just forget
the questions for the moment. I might be able to explain it, or tell you about
it, but I'm here to tell you that God is stretching you, and moving you, and he
doesn't want you to get hung up, but to move forward. I'm talking in the Holy
Ghost to someone this morning.
I don't recall either Yahweh or Jesus being opposed to
questions. Jesus was quite willing to answer the question in John 9, as well as
any others that were asked honestly. Yahweh, in the Old Testament was a lot heavier
handed, sure. But I doubt even he objected to the simple act of asking
questions. Did it ever occur to you, that the answers to the questions
you ask, might be the solution to your problems? To use your coffee
analogy, the reason I like my coffee a certain way, is because I know what I
need. Usually something sweet that will keep me awake. With caramel. If you
want just a simple cup of coffee, that's the solution for your situation, isn't
it? You walk away happy, and so do I.
But if you like yours like this, I don't consider you human. |
Questions are important. They shouldn't be ignored, or
glossed over, in the interest of eliminating stress. Sure, dwelling on things
you can do nothing about, or overthinking, can cause stress in your life. Those
should be avoided. But knowledge is power. And do you know where knowledge
comes from? Asking questions!
The Bible tells us in
verses 3-4,
Jesus answered, "Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work."
He said I must work while it is day. Because the night
cometh, when no man can work. I you don't hear a statement that I say all
morning, I want you to hear this one; don't get hung up on what is causing the
darkness around you. Don't get hung up on your questions, and wondering why and
trying to figure it all out. He said, that doesn't matter, I'm trying to show
you the glory of God. Let me come back to my text, he stretches the North over
the empty place. He stretches you, because he wants you to see the glory of God
in your life. Don’t get hung up on the darkness around you, or what’s causing
the darkness around you.
Yeah. The other logical fallacy here is Jesus' strawman argument. If "nobody sinned," in this man's life, he's saying he was blind from birth, just so he could be healed, to show everyone
the "glory of God?" was that really necessary? But the real problem
with that answer, is it raises another question: what about all the blind
people who would never be healed? Did one of their parents sin? And here we are
back at square one.
-1 for Jesus.
And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; "Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee."
And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, "This man blasphemeth."And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, "Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?For whether is easier, to say, thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk?"(Matthew 9:2-5, KJV)
Everybody in this room is here because you want to be
saved. (Almost everyone.)
Because you believe in God, and you know one day you'll
stand before him. So therefore, you're in this room this morning, because you
want to be saved. Everybody in this room, got out of bed and dressed, believing
in the saving power that is in this place. You believe it. If you didn’t believe
that, you wouldn't be here. You believe in the saving power of God. You believe
in how God can change a life. A life so far removed from God as a sinner, and
bring you to the grace and mercy of God. We believe in that. But yet, we have a
hang up when it comes time for me to believe that God is going to heal me. I
just felt a healing for forth. Somebody just grabbed a hold of this, I felt it
in the holy ghost.
Excuse me, I'm going to need some proof of this. I never saw any confirmation of this whatsoever. I mean, I know it's malarkey, but you could at least have a plant stand up and testify that their back was just healed or something. Come on.
Excuse me, I'm going to need some proof of this. I never saw any confirmation of this whatsoever. I mean, I know it's malarkey, but you could at least have a plant stand up and testify that their back was just healed or something. Come on.
When somebody says, you can be healed, and you can be set free. Somebody needs to realize this morning, that I cannot be hung up. You have to realize, "I need a healing in my life." Jesus said, is it easier to say, "thy sins be forgiven thee, or to say, arise and walk?" You got to stand up, you got to realize, that God's power is for a healing in my body. I'm not going to miss my healing. I will be set free, I will have a miracle. There's somebody with a pain your body. I speak it in Jesus name. Pain, go in Jesus name. I'm not going to get hung up this morning on somebody’s doubt. Somebody got a healing a few seconds ago, I felt it in the Holy Ghost. I believe that God stretches the North over the empty place, and will not get hung up. I'm not going to let my faith get hung up. My faith shall go forth!
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You're really going to throw around claims that someone
was just healed, without any confirmation besides some tingling you got? This
is one of the reasons Apostolic preachers need more checks and balances. Really, this
whole mess of a sermon is an example of why Apostolic preachers need more
checks and balances. You're right about one thing. People in your congregation
have real problems. Real health, family, and money problems. They shouldn't have
to be subjected to nonsense from the pulpit, and invisible, unconfirmed
healings.
This was effectively the end of the sermon. I have to
say, I'm not impressed. Maybe spend more time developing your point, and researching
the Bible verses you plan to use. And have a little more respect for your
audience. And please stop trying to swindle people with fake healings, because we both
know you can't back it up.
Hoping you do better next time,
This reminds me of my church-going days! The steaming tureen of Word Soup, arbitrary and unproven pronoucements of healing (or generic blessings) on others! I once went to church on purpose to be faith-healed of a back ache, only to hear the preacher announce in ringing tones that "God said he was healing toes this morning!" Imagine my disappointment.
ReplyDeleteStill I like to think that this preacher sincerely wanted to deliver word of exhortation but didn't think it necessary to prepare. Many experienced professional preachers can easily deliver a great sermon off the cuff, but it takes many years of practice and a thorough knowledge of the scriptures. Anyway I consider it a "blessing" that I was ultimately forced to do my own thinking, and now have a very satisfying relationship with God, who by the way, welcomes my questions.